• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Good, you don’t need smart phones in school

    For anyone screeching that you do: No. You don’t.

    We’ve been without smart phones for millenia, literally, and we were fine without. You will be fine without.

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      1 month ago

      For anyone screeching that you do: No. You don’t

      I have a feeling that you haven’t gone to school recently lol

      Educational resources are blocked that you literally cannot do your assignments without accessing. Teachers will tell you to use your phone to access it.

      If you have some questions for someone who is actively in highschool right now, I’d be happy to answer :)

      edit: tone

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        1 month ago

        Do I really need to explain this? I guess I do

        I’m sure there are classes in school now that require a phone. There better be, kids need to learn how to properly and responsibly use them. Having said that, 90% of other classes never required and still do not require a phone.

        Phones are an extreme distraction to the learning process and coupled with social media, harmful to the development of the brain. This is not news, this has been known for a while.

        This is not fascism, this is not me trying to be a dick this is simply kids needing to be away from their phone for a few hours per day and everyone is losing their minds because OMG, how are we going to make it without phones? Such opinions alone are reason enough to ban phones in schools. Learn ti be a human being first.

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          1 month ago

          If we’re talking about how it SHOULD be, the educational system to properly teach kids knowledge about life and not encouraging cheating (which a teacher has implied to do before) on some math equations.

          never required and still do not require a phone

          If your teacher does their job and teaches, sure. In the modern age where the teacher just tells you to “google it” then you DO Google it and it’s blocked, yes you DO need a way to get information related to your studies online.

          As an example:
          I need to make an essay on a song… that I can’t access because it’s blocked. Literally today.

          Phones are an extreme distraction to the learning process and coupled with social media…

          I do agree with your reasoning though. Ideally the schools provided resources would be able to do this. However due to the fact that we have 2 IT guys for 4 schools, 6,000 students assuming similar size, there’s not enough people to actually make stuff work.

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      1 month ago

      we didnt have clean drinking water either, or daily showers, we lived without soap for millenia

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        1 month ago

        Lol, we definitely have had clean drinking water for far longer than we have had dirty drinking water, thank the industrial revolution for that. And try skipping a shower for a day - you’ll be fine. Soap also has a long history https://www.soaphistory.net/soap-history/ over 4000 years

        So literally wrong on all three points. Perhaps you need to read more instead of doom scrolling and swapping nudes on your smartphone

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          1 month ago

          I’m pretty sure there can be other bad stuff in water that existed before the industrial revolution

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            1 month ago

            Sure, loads of sewage. But it also had smaller settlements, less people, and human waste was recycled more in times gone by too. Far more water was far more drinkable even 150 years ago

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              21 days ago

              Where do people like you get their information from? I’m seriously wondering, is there a shitty nonsense site out there or do you just pull shit out of your ass?

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      1 month ago

      For me school was a great way to learn almost nothing of any use while occupying 11 years of my life with pointless time filing busywork that I hated every hour, minute and each and every eternal second of of. The only thing worse than school has been work and my consolation is that at least it’s not forever!

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        25 days ago

        Aaahhh yes, you’re one of those people that just knew English grammar right at birth. I envy you! I guess that things like history, math, geography, economics, computers, it all was just already in your head and you didn’t need to lean anything. Wowowow

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          24 days ago

          I’m not saying that, I’m saying most of that time was wasted. I got very little for the 20’000 hours and most of my youth. In fact the overwhelming majority of what I kmow I got from the internet after class.

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            21 days ago

            I don’t know what to tell you, it sounds to me that that statement says more about your and or your specific school than in general.

            Yeah, the teaching could have been better, everything can be better, that doesn’t mean that everything is useless. You are talking to me by writing, you learned grammar yet you claim you got almost nothing. It’s weird

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              21 days ago

              Well I’m not saying everything is useless nor expressing an opinion about the sum of all students’ experience, only my observation of the factory-like mass reproduction of teaching. It’s one size fits all nature, it’s lack of concerm for the subjective experience of students, it’s time-filling dilution of knowledge, its inability to help anyone outside of normal but its obligation to drag them over the finish line anyway, its belief that people in front are somehow gifted and can wait for the rest to catch up or be put in gifted or delayed groups instead (without regards for the social consequences). Its narrow range of interests, its flattening incuriosity, its concern over production of employee rather than citizens. Its unending wasting of my youth back when minutes felt like hours. Its reality falling so far short of its promises.

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                20 days ago

                I’m sorry if your education sucked, I guess not everyone can win, but don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater

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                  18 days ago

                  I’m not saying no to education. I’m saying respect my time and listen to me as a student instead of treating me like a product on a conveyor belt. Give back agency instead of 13 years of railroading.

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      1 month ago

      Yeah who needs the wheel either? We survived 450,000 years without it. And don’t get me started on paper. Paper can be used to make paper airplanes or spitballs. What a distraction! Kids should chisel their assignments onto stone slates like our ancestors did.

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        If wheels could brainwash a kid, completely distract them, and make them throw a tantrum when you take it away then we might have to worry about them.

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      1 month ago

      People werent fine either, why dont you just google 911 calls from kids and see how many would have been better off without phones

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        26 days ago

        About?

        That didn’t exist 20 years ago?

        There are no teachers with mobile phones around?

        You don’t need a mobile phone

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          26 days ago

          Lots of type 1 diabetics now use their smartphones to keep track of their numbers, they use them to work out carbohydrates, the phones also warn them of high numbers and potentially fatal lows. So yes they do need phones.

          The child’s phone also sends blood glucose values to family members.

          Also a teacher having a mobile phone doesn’t help one iota.

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            25 days ago

            Yay, you mayhaps found a possible potential exception to a rule.

            Main point still stands, and yeah, teachers can have a smart phone as long as it’s on do not disturb during teaching hours. If it’s not for a few times, you discipline the teacher. It’s not that hard.

            Either way, no phones in class. Students need a no distraction environment and they do not need TikTok or whatever is the craze right now