Nuria Zyden came to Ireland in 2009, became a naturalised Irish citizen and has three children who were born in the Republic.
A Uyghur, she grew up in Xinjiang, a majority Muslim province where locals are regarded with extreme suspicion by the Chinese Government.
“As a Uyghur person, growing up we were seen as politically disloyal and culturally disadvantaged,” Ms Zyden told Newstalk Breakfast.
“The State media frequently portrayed Uyghurs as extremists and discrimination in jobs and education left us with limited opportunities.
“After 9/11, the Chinese Government rebranded its repressions as a war on terror, using it as a pretext to expand mass surveillance.”
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Determined to keep her culture alive and speak out against Beijing’s oppression of her people, she helped found the Irish Uyghur Culture Association in 2014.
Like many Uyghurs living outside of China, she soon found that her advocacy had not gone unnoticed by Chinese officials.
“My activism has become a target [with] phone calls from the Chinese Government and all different types of harassment,” she said.
Most disturbingly, she feels they are blackmailing her elderly mother.
“My gentle, 74-year-old mother told me to not come home,” Ms Zyden said.
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“I don’t know what is really happening to her but I guess she has been questioned and probably she was in detention.
“I’m not really sure; she begged me, do not forget about the Chinese Communist Party raising us and wherever we go, we should appreciate [them].”
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Call me a conspiracy theorist but these news about Uyghurs, and china hunting them down abroad came out right as Europe, SK and Japan was reconsidering their affiliation with China
I’ll also call you an idiot.
Call me a conspiracy theorist but these news about Uyghurs, and china hunting them down abroad came out right as Europe, SK and Japan was reconsidering their affiliation with China
In his seminal book, The Sacred Routes of Uyghur History, published in 2014, Professor Rian Thum from the University of Manchester in the UK, documents …
… how the Muslims of the region now called Xinjiang understood their past in the three centuries before the Cultural Revolution. Then he explains how that historical identity was torn apart, […] in the course of the 20th century.
This is really just one of an awful lot of very good sources on the subject that proves your statement that “these news about Uyghurs, and china hunting them down abroad came out right as Europe, SK and Japan was reconsidering their affiliation with China” simply false.
What I find weird here on Lemmy is that the obvious crimes against humanity committed by China are downplayed and often completely denied, even by some administrators and moderators.
I don’t know if those as well are called tankies in English, but yeah, there are a lot of those here.
Yeah and unlike the US, China is not actively bombing anyone. I have a hard time believing that China is doing this.
“call me a conspiracy theorist but these news about Jewish concentration camps and Germany hunting them down came out right as the USSR was reconsidering their alliance with them”
Are you saying the genocide isn‘t happening or what‘s your concern here? And these stories aren‘t just coming out now. They‘ve been published over the last few years as China is seemingly ramping up their efforts of ethnic cleansing.
Looks to me like China is speeding up things on all fronts right now which may raise alertness of the free press and the public about these topics. I mean when will we properly act on their crimes against humanity, their garbage flooding our market or their illegal Police stations? It‘s moving all too slow and too little on our front.
Trump is a fan of everything you listed though.
Can you provide any evidence for your claim? It’s clearly wrong, as there has been strong evidence for the suppression of Uyghurs, Tibetans, and other minorities by the Chinese government for a very long time, from many independent sources.
Can you please link some of that evidence because all I got so far are some secondhand hearsay testimonies.
Well the word of the woman in the linked OP article for one. Are you saying she is lying about her first hand experiences? What do you think is her motivation to do so?
I’m saying its hearsay. It’s one account and she isnt even really making any claims other than vague “disadvantaged”. That’s my problem with this whole narrative, it’s sporadic, anecdotal, very vague and never really focused on the uyghur people but on “china bad”. Whereas I’ve seen videos of beautiful uyghur festivals, uyghur mosques and it seems like the culture is thriving. So on the one hand I have one side putting forth a lot of public material about the beauty of the uyghur population, with the focus on them, and the other side has some yeonmi park style interviews about evil ccp with no real claims about how the uyghur people themselves are systematically impacted.
What laws have been enacted that target uyghur people? What policies? Of what form is the systemic oppression thats being claimed, and to what end?
Whereas I’ve seen videos of beautiful uyghur festivals, uyghur mosques and it seems like the culture is thriving.
Where did you see these videos?
Xiaohongshu, along with people teaching ughric script and language.
Xiaohongshu
The little red book is a propaganda tool where everything is censored unless it completely aligns with the Chinese Communist Party’s narratives.
You are questioning dozens of sources here from the EU, UK, US, NZ, and I don’t know how many other countries from around the globe, stories told by eye witnesses who could escape the concentration in China, scholars, rights activists, researchers, investigative journalists - only to then provide a single source which is the CCP.
Stay away from these sources and get a life.
Firsthand eyewitness accounts are by definition not hearsay.
You can claim she is lying if you want. But you can’t call it hearsay.
I’m saying she isnt making any actual claims. I mean palestinians are put through the wringer before they can give detailed testimonials about the horrific genocide that they are subjected to that then gets ignored but this woman makes some vague “I was disadvantaged” claim thats then treated as evidence for a targeted, decades long systemic oppression of a huge ethnic group.
The only actual claim she makes “I don’t know what is really happening to [my mother] but I guess she has been questioned and probably she was in detention.” is hearsay.
With no reason provided for why this oppression would take place or what even it is, I’m pretty confident in filing this under propaganda from an adversarial nation until there’s something more tangible.
This is supposed to be the concrete evidence? It appears to be more of a collection of propaganda.
Nah, the Chinese propaganda is elsewhere. The articles provided at https://sopuli.xyz/c/China are the result of sophisticated, independent, and reliable investigations.
By who? Why can you speak to the veracity of the articles personally?
I read them.
If you want to get a broader summary of the situation, the Campaign for Uyghurs’ website may be helpful. Canada’s House of Commons provides also good insights as well as the International Bar Association and Holocaust Memorial Museum in the US.
“Break Their Lineage, Break Their Roots”, is a report by Human Right Watch from 2021, detailing China’s crimes against humanity targeting Uyghurs and other Turkic muslims.
It comes from all over. You’ll easily find much more.
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An Irish woman fears Chinese officials have threatened her family because she speaks out about Beijing’s repression of the Uyghur minority
Most disturbingly, she feels they are blackmailing her elderly mother.
“I’m not really sure; she begged me, do not forget about the Chinese Communist Party raising us and wherever we go, we should appreciate [them].”Thats the kind of hearsay fearmongering I am talking about, is there anything more concrete than “My grandmother said she likes the CCP”?
That’s the kind of approach a lemmygrab ml troll would use
the “treat those who cant provide evidence but only ad hominems with suspicion” approach?
Ask for evidence constantly, deny it if provided and trash the source. Where is your source? Thats the playbook.
Prove me wrong though.
