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In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.
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This is genocide. What’s more is that even if Israel annexes all of Gaza and the West Bank, people are kidding themselves if they think they’re going to stop there.
It’s almost like Israel needs Lebensraum…
Germany will give Israel Poland to “appease” them. I know this probably won’t happen, but given their recent video taped treatment of localized Palestinians, I don’t think it’s a 0% bet.
I’m betting this isn’t even about Palestine.
This is to give the US military experience with mass deportations/genocide (look up the definition of genocide, mass deportations are included in the definition) and to dull them to the idea of doing it domestically.
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If the USA has any hands in this other than administrative/diplomatic then it’s probably an excuse to genocide them directly instead of just selling ammo to Netanyahu.
Literally taking notes from the nazis…
Not so fun fact, but the nazis based a lot of their shit on the US’s treatment of native Americans, and slaves!
More not so fun facts: Israel is also asking, you Europeans did it in the Americas, Australia and Russia, and sit pretty on top of stolen land but now you have yours are playing holier than thou? It’s quite the sinking feeling that we had some moments when we thought we’ll escape our fucked up nature. I hope we can find a way to put the genie back in cause I’m hating this.
Yup, a lot of cultures are guilty of doing this. In this day and age, we should know better and live and let live.
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Sounds like a good thing.
…and the fucking Russians. Those bastards changed the European borders and murdered anyone who disagreed.
Nazis wanted to kill them all, not move them further away. It’s of course a shitty thing to do, but I’m getting kinda annoyed by how often people use nazis as an example for something when they were far more evil than anything that exists today, essentially downplaying or borderline normalizing nazis because of how commonly it’s now used for real life examples.
This is false. The Nazis originally planned to deport the Jews. They changed to extermination once their deportation plans stopped being practical. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan#Plan_abandoned
Quote:
Once planning for Operation Barbarossa commenced, Hitler asked Himmler to draft a new plan for the elimination of the Jews of Europe, and Himmler passed along the task to Heydrich. His draft proposed the deportation of the Jews to the Soviet Union via Poland.[36] The later Generalplan Ost (General Plan for the East), prepared by Professor Konrad Meyer and others, called for deporting the entire population of occupied Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union to Siberia, either for use as slave labour or to be murdered after the Soviet defeat. The plan hinged on the rapid defeat of the Soviet forces.[37] Once it became apparent that the war against the Soviet Union would drag on much longer than expected, Heydrich revised his plans to concentrate on the Jewish population then under Nazi control. Since transporting masses of people into a combat zone would be impossible, Heydrich decided that the Jews would be killed in extermination camps set up in occupied areas of Poland.[38] The total number of Jews murdered during the resulting Holocaust is estimated at 5.5 to 6 million people.[39]
In other words, by focusing on the end point of the Holocaust and ignoring its starting point YOU are normalizing nazi-like plans that have every potential to escalate.
…dude, I literally talked about what happened, not what was theoretized. Do you have any idea how brutally evil things have US or other countries theoretized? Thinking and doing are two very, VERY different things. Didn’t know this needs explaining.
I responded to what you actually wrote:
Nazis wanted to kill them all, not move them further away. […]
You described intent, i.e., “thinking”.
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PS. Genocide is not a single event in time, it’s a process. An easy way to educate yourself on the matter is by searching YouTube for interviews of Omer Bartov, world renowned Israeli scholar on Genocide and the Holocaust, prof at Brown.
I mean, they were doing it and would have finished doing it if it wasn’t for a world war, so definitely not just thinking
This is also false. The mass killings started in the middle of 1941 after the invasion of the Soviet Union. The systematic policy of extermination was decided in January 1942 in the Wannsee Conference.
There was quite a lot of thinking before doing. And there was quite a lot of doing smaller steps before doing bigger steps. Just like there was quite a lot of thinking smaller steps before thinking bigger steps.
Give it a rest buddy, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Says I’m false
Proceeds to tell me I’m true.
Look buddy who knows it all, when Israel actually decides to kill those million Palestinians instead of moving them, get back to me abd I’ll apologize for my ignorant statements, but as of things stand now, I cannot take you seriously when you push for extreme comparisons while nit-picking how it all started.
Your argument somewhat reminded me of the “weed is a getaway drug to stronger drugs” argument. No, that’s not always the case.
No, the orginal plan was to ship them all to Madagascar. It is well documented
And the original plan for country X was to do Y but since it never happened, it’s irrelevant and people almost never speak of it, except when it suddenly fits their narrative, no matter how stupid/disconnected it is
In other news, USSR and Gulag is exactly the comparison you were actually looking for, but no, gotta always use “nazis” because of how catchy it is to you guys
Trail Of Tears mk2? Mk probably much more than that by now.
What gives them the authority to “plan” the lives of 1 million people halfway across the globe?
77,302,580 stupid assholes and the world’s most powerful military.
Exactly. I want to know how and why anyone would think that this is ok.
Who’s gonna stop them?
Who’s gonna stop them?
The first line (diplomacy):
Several factions in the Libyan government have warm relations with Turkey. Turkey has so far antagonized with Israel over the matter of Gaza. It’s not hard to predict that factions in the Libyan government, upon Trump’s likely blackmail (he can do little else) to accept the deportation of million ethnically cleansed Palestinians, would receive a phone call from their Turkish, Quatari, Algerian and Pakistani backers, telling them to “stop discussing that nonsense” and asking them to reject Trump. So, most likely the Libyan government will fail to reach a consensus.
The second line (politics):
The Libyan parliament will not support it. Parliament may remove the government if it’s doing something unpalatable
The third line (war):
Libyan people will not support it. Various factions may rebel again and restart the civil war if they see the government acting seriously against their wishes.
The US Military was a well-oiled machine before January 20, 2025. Now it’s a machine whose oil is driving more than all other machines and is about six months past its due date for an oil change. They’ve announced a bunch of plans for more trips, but nobody’s changing the oil anymore.
This is quite literally genocidal intent. The US is a rogue state at this point.
Sure am glad DOGE found all this money for the racist fucks to do things like this. Fuck Elon and the talking Cheeto.
I haven’t seen any evidence DOGE has saved any money at all. Most if not all estimates say his cuts to the IRS increased the deficit despite all his other cuts.
The point of doge was to steal government data. Not to save money. The firing of essential workers was a distraction tactic to divert your attention away from the fact musk now has information about everyone who has had any contact with the government. They’ll have left a bunch of backdoors into the systems now as well.
Moreover, Kennedy has already set up his database of neurodivergents and the rounding up of undesirables will start when Congress goes into recess this summer. Also they’ll use the data they’ve taken from 23 and me etc to try and round people up based on their genetic profile. I’m not sure it matters to them whether they get it right.
Y’all need to get out before the end of July. IMHO
They didn’t find all that much.
Enough for a packet of biscuits, I heard.
ItS nOt A gEnOcIDe!
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Take the Palestinians in and we will release your own money.
Does this means that they plan to leave only 1 million survivors put of the 2 millions+ inhabitants in the Gaza strip? That means 1 million deaths, not 52K something as we´re being told.
Trump administration working on final solution to the Palestinian problem
Nothing btonsee here people, just a government working diligently on genocide, nothing to see here
Says I’m false
Proceeds to tell me I’m true.
Look buddy who knows it all, when Israel actually decides to kill those million Palestinians instead of moving them, get back to me abd I’ll apologize for my ignorant statements, but as of things stand now, I cannot take you seriously when you push for extreme comparisons while nit-picking how it all started.
Your argument somewhat reminded me of the “weed is a getaway drug to stronger drugs” argument. No, that’s not always the case.
Send the Israelis to Libya instead
While I don’t think it does us any favors to front-load any plans for the future with “just send <group> to <place>”, it’s also good to point out that a chunk of them are originally from Libya in the first place.
Nah, they would colonize it. Send all the Israelis to America where they can suffer.
Coming soon to Libya: new concentration camps
Soldiers for more war in Libya. They won’t have a say, it’ll be mandatory.
Well, at least the Palestinians living in Michigan now know where the administration is going to send them.
It’s so nice watching centrists fantasize about deporting Muslims like republicans do.
Not fantasizing.
Literally said “this is what they will do to you because the Republicans are a fucking White Nationalist party”.
Oh look. We were right. So fuck off asshole.
