DarkThoughts

What?

when beehaw famously defederated from lemmy.world ages ago, as well as sh.itjust.works

They’ve been defederated from lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear for much longer though.

while the admin of lemm.ee has said, controversially for some of their users I believe, that they don’t really understand all of the fuss over hexbear.

I guess that explains the heavy Tankie presence on that instance, which I’ve negatively noticed as well.

I’m not sure what your point here regarding Beehaw is though.

Meanwhile, lemmy.ml tries to stay widely federated AFAICT, and from what I’ve gathered, the admins have even gotten in hot water with their lefty users for not defederating from more right-wing-ish instances earlier, and then are often criticised for their active moderation on their own instance.

And here you lost me completely. What right-wing-ish instances are we talking about? Because I have yet to see anything that even mildly steers into that direction. And what moderation? Banning non far left positions and those who talk back against far left disinformation? Just look at their news sub and how much mod abuse & disinformation there is. Tankies can freely insult people and the mods do absolutely nothing. Correct disinformation and you get banned. If that’s an issue for the admins, then they could actually do something about it, since they literally own that instance.

and don’t like what they perceive to be a culture of demanding open source users (which I’ve come to understand over time actually).

“Demanding open source users” is a nice way of framing community demands negatively. lol

I believe it’s probably more that it’s extremely difficult, and that developers facing the reality of the situation might come across as dismissive when responding to ideas and suggestions.

The problem is that them being on a political extremist side of things makes it incredibly hard to take their word for it and to take them at face value. The most trouble Lemmy communities are facing is coming exactly from the spaces that align not just with the devs views, but in case of Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad even the ownership. So when more moderate lefty instances like Beehaw complain about the lack of moderation tools to handle the trolls from those places, it might just be that the devs are completely fine with what’s happening.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but what I picked up by the Beehaw drama is that the Lemmy devs do not seem to be too interested in improving moderation support. I don’t know if this is politics related but I wouldn’t be surprised.

Clown theater.