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  • Your post implied that all countries outside of the west sided with China when this is clearly not true.

    I didn’t mean to imply all countries, and it’s my mistake for phrasing it like that, sorry.

    Even in Africa there is a lot of pushback among the population (not necessarily the elites) against Chinese imperialism. Sri Lanka is another example where there is a measures of opposition to jingoistic Chinese meddling.

    That’s true. It’s also important to note, at least with Africa, that there is also pushback against ongoing European imperialism, so when it comes to a “do you prefer US or China more” situation like OP, they might still pick one of them while also giving pushback.


  • please don’t shuffle blame away as if there was some giant institutional force preventing them from voting

    My point isn’t that the giant institutional force prevented people from voting (although voter suppression is, incidentally, a huge issue too).

    All the US federal elections are a popularity contest, where rich people have ludicrous amounts of power to determine which politicians even end up as viable options on the ballot, through tools such as lobbying parties, mass media ownership, flak and advertising [wikipedia: further reading] to influence the exposure and framing of candidates. How many candidates does the typical citizen even learn about from the news or pop culture? Probably a number between 1 and 4, and only two will be endorsed by the major parties and therefore viable options in practice. That’s the institutional power in action. One can’t look at Clinton, Biden and Trump in 2016 and 2020 and pretend any were the best (or even decent) choices for a country’s leader. These candidates rise to the top because of institutional pressures, hence, pay-to-win - the owning class decide on the options that citizens can vote on.

    IIRC, Australia (I’m assuming you’re from there because of your instance?) has a voting system where at least the minor parties are a viable option and independent candidates have a real chance. That’s not the case in the US federal election. There’s no option but the big two, the parties beholden to billionaires and mega-millionaires through tools like lobbying and mass media needed to win the popularity contest.

    Obviously the PRC also has major influence over which candidates citizens can vote for, and they don’t have direct federal elections for party leaders (they’re elected by the local members who are elected by citizens), but the main difference is that it’s not a popularity contest where celebrities like Trump, Reagan and Schwarzenegger end up as political decision makers partly due to name recognition rather than credentials and trust, or where money decides the available options.

    Left wing voters didn’t show up

    I find it hard to believe that Gaza protest votes were anywhere near enough to sway the election, we’re talking IIRC about a 15 million drop. The Democrats weren’t delivering. Voter turnout from both parties went down.


  • Many countries in Asia have suffered from invasions and conflicts with China.

    Yes, that’s a reason why some don’t side with China.

    Africa and the Middle East and South America and other Asian countries didn’t have conflicts with China (in fact, they’re typically invaded by European countries and/or the US) and so have tended to side with China.

    I don’t see where we’re disagreeing or how what I said was any more simplistic than your reply.



  • The PRC has a pretty clear ideological basis. Many of its leaders have written theoretical works about economics and governance. The direction might veer one way or another over the years but it’s the same party running the show. So at the end of the day, one thing they have going for them is consistency. You can know what to expect. From an international perspective, they’re an appealing trade partner.

    The US ran a pay-to-win popularity contest to give the keys to a reality show failed-businessman backed by a weird mix of alienated mega-millionaire and billionaires who clearly have little idea of how the levers work, alongside the vicious selfish bigots who ally with them. It was already an inconsistent system for a long time, but now there’s no more facade of professionalism to keep them half-rational. It’s pretty much the 1930s all over again.

    “Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.”



  • Do you mean idealistically (a belief), or reality in practice? Because many groups have been given the legal right to harm others, e.g. military, police, certain sports players and businesses, so in practice, many people have the right to harm another and it’s terrible.

    If you mean idealistically, well, that’s a nice idea but it means nothing until we collectively build the power to enforce it. The bourgeoisie crying about regulation taking away their freedom to put lead in our food tend to be the people with the money and power to perform regulatory capture.








  • No, that’s not my argument. Plenty of those licenses are enforceable and sometimes enforced - even if they’re not enforced perfectly.

    My argument is that OP’s license is mostly targeting situations which, I believe, are unenforceable. I know this following example is ridiculous, but it’s a bit like saying “we should ban drunk driving in other countries”. Drunk driving laws are useful, they’re enforceable even if not perfect, but there’s no point in trying to enforce them in other countries who won’t respect our laws.



  • The reason we aren’t enforcing what OP is proposing is because it doesn’t exist, so no enforcement apparatus exists. Why would it?

    Our legal systems already recognize and have some mechanisms to enforce contracts and licenses. We don’t need to build a whole new one for each license. But our existing copyright system already fails to enforce itself in certain countries and with certain entities (e.g. military) and I just can’t see that changing.