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  • Matrix does have all of that, though? Except for voice.

    I use matrix/element for socializing and Mumble for voice chat while gaming.

    To respond to each comment:

    • Element is a unified UI, available on PC/Web/Mobile.
    • Starting and managing a community involves hitting the + button, creating a community, creating rooms in that community, then setting permissions and ACLs - pretty similar to discord, though with more control as you own the server.
    • Embedded content is possible through the embed button.
    • Video and voice work, but aren’t great for gaming (see below).

    Element Call (aka the new MatrixRTC spec) is great for video calls, but leaves a lot to be desired for chatting while gaming.


  • From a chat standpoint, the two are near identical - yes - but Matrix lacks the “voice/video calls as persistent rooms” feature that Discord has. This was planned a while back, but has recently been pushed on the backburner[1] as they work on Element Call.

    Early on Matrix was sort of being built up as an IRC/Discord alternative, but recently they’ve pivoted more towards a WA/Telegram/Slack alternative as most of their financial support comes from European governments and companies looking for strong and secure internal communication solutions they can manage themselves.

    So, TL;DR you probably won’t see the exact Discord like features you want land in the spec any time soon as they’re not being funded.

    So that means, right now:

    • No persistent voice/video rooms (but they are on the roadmap!)
    • No push-to-talk or “game friendly” settings like voice auto-detection (also not really on the roadmap)

    Having said all that, Matrix is brilliant and I highly encourage people to check it out. I use a Matrix <-> Signal bridge for most of my comms with my friends, and we voice chat on Mumble. Not ideal, but you get to avoid Discord and you get a very similar experience! Bonus points for Mumble as it’s super lightweight.

    ~[1] It’s not really on the backburner so much as it’s something that will have to be worked on after the new VOIP stack - Element Call - is integrated in the wider Matrix ecosystem. There is an experimental “video rooms” feature, but that really isn’t the same as a native, persistent voice-only room.~