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    4 days ago

    the dreaded “death cross,” a historical indicator of a likely downturn for the company

    […] occurs when a company’s 50-day moving average crosses and drops below the 200-day average.

    Fuck Tesla and all that, but holy shit is that standard ever a depressing indicator of to just how reliant late stage capitalism is on endless growth that a tiny dip after half a year of stagnation is a reliable indicator of a company’s imminent failure.

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      you can either have a system with loans and endless growth or a system where actual ownership is required and stagnation is allowed.

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          Capitalism supports Psychopathic behaviors. They don’t care about satisfied. They want profit at all costs. Even if it means killing you and your family. The gears of industry must be lubricated.

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    I checked and TSLA is still up from where it was 6 and 12 Months ago, how is it in a death cross?

    Unfortunately the stock seems fine to my.

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      it’s just a moving average cross. 50 day MA moves below 200 MA, that’s it. Can be a bearish sign but I’ve seen it bounce in this moment a bunch of times.

      But technical analsyis is just drawing imaginary lines on a chart, they know nothing about how stupid Trump and Musk are so it might very well be bearish. At least I hope so. I want to see him get margin called at 114$ or so they say.

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    The fact it’s still at $250 per share as of writing this is still alarming af.

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      Yeah, it’s absurd.

      • The CEO is nearly universally reviled.
      • They have the worst build quality of any vehicles sold in the USA.
      • They are notoriously unsafe.
      • They had to stop selling Cybertrucks because they had 8 recalls in a row and are literally held together with glue
      • They were just hit with the most expensive recall of all time on their self driving bullshit.
      • They are underwater in Europe & China.
      • I probably have forgotten something.

      The earnings call on the 22nd should be very interesting.

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        You forgot:

        • Caught numerous times deliberately misleading the public about build quality, safety, and features (current and upcoming).
        • Bizarre ergonomics that contravene many existing safety standards (e.g., the brake lights on the Cybertruck).
        • CEO uses his influence for stock manipulation, regularly
        • Notorious racist corporate culture that also denigrates women and other ethnicities
        • 99% of their profits come from the resale of carbon credits. They have only made a profit off cars for roughly 2-3 quarters in their history of existence.

        I’m sure I’m forgetting a bunch of other stuff.

        Edit: Here’s one right off the press, still hot: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/04/tesla-makes-its-cars-lie-about-their-mileage-lawsuit-claims/ 😆 🤦‍♂️

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    No such thing as a death cross for a company that is now embedded at the highest level of the federal government. Don’t get too excited, ass hat and the swasticars aren’t going anywhere. If you havent dumped your Tesla yet, get fucked at this point.

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    I have to be honest, as someone who is not fully immersed in the financial markets, the chart pattern reading kinda strikes me as astrology for guys in suits.

    I feel this deep in my bones

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      Oh my God this is so f-ing true. It makes me think a lot of sociology classes I took in college where we’d talk about the artificiality of money how it’s only meaningful because we have collectively decided it is. The folks who try to make it all scientific with lots of elaborate analytics and complex charts are basically just engaging a social math exercise.

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        Money is an emotional thing. Do I believe that this coin / bit of paper / number on a website is something that I can exchange for goods and services? If not enough people believe that, that currency will collapse.

        Mind you, not using money is inefficient at scale. Sending the bag of potatoes that I’ve grown in my garden this month to my internet provider for continued shitposting privileges only goes so far.

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          Money is an emotional thing. Do I believe that this coin / bit of paper / number on a website is something that I can exchange for goods and services? If not enough people believe that, that currency will collapse.

          That’s not true at all. You know most of the reason why your currency works? It’s not based on tinker bell. It’s based upon the fact that the government collects taxes from you in it. It’s also based upon the fact that other countries will accept it as repayment of debt or face military consequences.

          Now, stock prices are mostly irrational – though some companies do actually produce valuable goods and services and own infrastructure – I’ll grant you that. But belief has very little to do with USD being more than green-tinted paper.

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              Expectation of stock value, sure, but also inherently valuable in that the services or products they provide are things that people value. For instance, a utility company that owns electrical plants and produces electricity and distributes it provides an inherently valuable service. Who pays for that is a separate concern, as is the stock price, but the service itself is valuable.

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                There’s no definition of “inherently valuable” which doesn’t rely on arbitrary axioms. Especially because no amount of inherentness can guarantee a minimum price.

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                  Do you find food valuable? Clothing? Shelter?

                  Some things are valuable because we’re frail creatures who need stuff in order to survive. I don’t believe in gatekeeping those vital things behind a monopolistic mega-corporation but my country sure as hell does. The monopolistic mega-corporations that provide human necessities become inherently valuable by proxy.

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        And apparently my team at work. It’s more of a curiosity (oh, you’re somewhat extroverted? Interesting!), and it gives us a chance to ask questions to get to know a new hire.

        If you’re making actual decisions based on the MBTI test, then that’s on you. But it’s kinda fun to compare.

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          It’s used widely for actual hiring decisions. If you’re qualified for a job but they want an INTJ but you’re an ENTJ according the overgrown Facebook quiz, you get a rejection letter.

          It’s unethical as fuck, and absolutely rampant in corporate America.

          Now, as a team building exercise or role play to get to know potential clientele, yeah no harm.

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            Wow, really? We only do it like a couple weeks after hiring, and you can respectfully refuse. We just do it as a “get to know you” meeting so we can get the team familiar with the new hire.

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              Yeah, some employers are really stupid about it. They treat it like a crystal ball. I’m not an expert in psychology, so the best I got is second-hand insight, but one of the perks of working in a hospital is I get to routinely pick brains that are a lot smarter than mine, to include a couple of psych PhD’s: ask them about the Myers Briggs and they immediately start ranting about how it’s pseodo-science bullshit. And some doctors do rant about shit outside their scope of expertise, which pretty well puts them at the same level of idiocy as the rest of us (i.e., if your ortho doc starts raving about how vaccines cause autism, the MD on his badge carries literally zero weight: he knows the fuck out of bones, but until proven otherwise it’s best to assume he got his education on vaccines from Fox news). But when experts in psych bitch about psych stuff, I take that at face value.