American Dr Mark Perlmutter, who has volunteered in Gaza, says one of his Palestinian colleagues was taken by Israeli occupation forces, had his fingers shattered and was told to confess to being a member of Hamas or have his wife gang raped in front of him.
Soldiers ‘crushed’ his fingers, Perlmutter explains, adding that they also threatened to ‘send a drone to your bedroom window and incinerate your children.’ The doctor did not confess and spent 11 months being tortured in Israeli detention.
I’m always really surprised more people don’t post this stuff in conservative dominated spaces.
They’re not monsters. Aside from the trolls and bots that are paid to try to sway them to be. Also the under 20 year olds that are edge Lords.
I think it’s legit to get discussions and to challenge their core beliefs honestly. I do it. Some get through, sometimes I get banned. But I’m surprised more people don’t go out and do similar
Have you tried? Your fantasy depiction of unfortunate misguided Nazis does not meet up with reality.
I do. I’m saying I’m surprised I don’t see more. It happens with spaces on the left all the time too.
It’s crazy how in the last ten years we have allowed moderation to drive us into separate corners. A time out was maybe a good idea. But we should still be working to merge back into a single Internet.
And fuck off with the ‘they’re are all Nazis’ shit. That’s the same bullshit that made MAGA go off the rails.
I know on Reddit that r/conservative had a bit of a meltdown because their users started having honest takes like “people should be held accountable for Intel leak”
They have this term “my fellow conservatives” that was clearly bots trying to suppress anyone from voicing dissent. Surprisingly lots of down votes for it. Just saying maybe there’s a middle ground more than people think.
Nah. They’re sitting at the Nazi table, until they willingly walk away: they’re Nazis. If they don’t like hearing it they can off themselves or leave the Nazi table, either one is fine
You can’t “leave the Nazi table” if there’s no actual Nazi table. Take Ukraine, for example: think of the Azov Brigade. It doesn’t’t mean the entire Ukrainian population or military is made up of Nazi just because they’re tolerated.
It’s a fallacy to judge the whole based on an extreme subset. Just because there are far-right elements within a group doesn’t mean everyone in that group shares those beliefs.
Now, I’m not denying that some people are too comfortable with far-right ideologies within their ranks. That’s a real issue. But I also know many who clearly don’t align with that. So, while it’s valid to call out Nazi ideology when it appears, labeling people or groups as Nazis indiscriminately just weakens the argument.
Instead of using “Nazi” as a blunt instrument, we should confront the actual behavior when it happens and hold people accountable for it. That approach is far more likely to lead to real consequences and dialogue, rather than being written off as exaggeration or political posturing.
So you’re blind or stupid? If you think the Nazi table doesn’t exist, let alone isn’t literally in charge right now then it’s one or the other