See. When countries rely on tariffs to protect local manufacturers - there should be way way way better social system in place and laws protecting working class. Because we are the ones in this case allowing this ineffective manufacturing to exist by paying tariffs
Let’s talk about the moment Donald Trump blinked. It wasn’t loud. It wasn’t a tweetstorm or a rally rant. When the tariff threats that had the world on edge—125% on China, 25% on Canada’s autos, a global trade war in the making—suddenly softened. A “pause,” he called it. A complete turnaround from the chest-thumping of the past week. And the reason? Mark Carney and a slow, deliberate financial maneuver that most people didn’t even notice: the coordinated Treasury bond slow bleed. (https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/carneys-checkmate-how-canadas-quiet-bond-play-forced-trump-to-drop-tariffs/) This is Mark Carney. Thank you, fellow Canadians, for voting for the experienced Captain to man the helm in the rough waters ahead!
Yah, you missed an election
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Hopefully this is a wakeup call for the folks who don’t vote because they think that both parties are the same.
What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers
On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the retaliational tarrifs by the usa.
So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it’s blade! With both hands!
The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.
Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.
was an article that EU is gonna get flooded by super cheap items now, china will sell at a loss. that is gonna take shares from US items even more, and US items was already overpriced and gonna become even more expensive.
its like triple loss for US. they need to lower US wages if they want be able to compete.
Until sellers start jacking prices up elsewhere in the world to make up for lost revenue from the American market
The American market is a massive part of some companies yes. But most companies only have a small percentage of revenue in the US.
Listen… the US is just one country. Its a big one and one that buys a lot. But still one country. Many companies can compensate the loss of that market by exploring the many other markets that they have down played. Furthermore, the availability of products that would have gone to the US may even make it cheaper to make and sell products everywhere else than in the US
That would be akin to death by sudoku
(Yes, I know it’s seppuku)
Cambridge Analytica is the reason we’re in this mess. It’s the actual Deep State the Republicans were pointing fingers about
Americans are dumb as fuck
I always knew this based on education standards/testing, but I wasn’t thinking we were a special needs country. All that revolution and democracy and hundreds of years of success and growth and then we just shoot ourselves in the face.
But hey, at least we got… to own the libs?
Americans didn’t realize 1/3 lb burger is bigger than a 1/4 lb burger…
There’s also the time JCPenney’s actually had everything at the best price and so they weren’t doing discounts. But everyone was waiting for the ‘sales’. Your average American would rather have something be marked up $200 and then listed as 75% off than just pay $50 regular price.
Americans would work as a dishwasher and believe it’s the American dream.
Yup.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren’t generally gonna get better. Can’t have a good society if it’s overflowing with dipshits.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Yep, I’m smart enough to know I’m not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go “This isn’t normal, right?”
It’s a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.
Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I’m going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that’s not exactly a flex, it’s probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it’s just how my brain works.
And yet I’m still smarter than Trump and his cultists.
This post resonates very muchly with me.
What’s the George Carlin quote? Something about how stupid the most average person you know is, then realize that 50% of people are dumber than that?
Yeah that’s the bit pretty much word-for-word
I’m in the same boat as you. I think I’m pretty middle of the pack. The bottom is filled with genuine morons.
This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.
There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.
Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you’ve got a recipie for an ignorant population.
And depending on how that SCOTUS ruling goes on religious charter schools…it might accelerate.
Doesn’t help that a whole lot of idiots also think it’s somehow very clever of them to “rise above” it all by acting like it’s “both sides”. This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.
Of course, the “liberal media” harps on the “both sides” thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed “leftists” take up that mantra, too.
*Rightists.
Right wingers are the only people I hear the “both sides” mantra from. I don’t know what media you’re consuming, but you got it ass backwards.
The bullshit “liberal media” does the “both sides” thing all the freaking time.
And I’m talking about an awful lot of supposed leftists on places like Lemmy that do things like “but Biden’s economy was actually BAD!” and so on. I could go on for other examples…now, whether I believe most of them are actual leftists, I dunno…
The thing I hear occasionally and that I actually agree with is that from an outsiders’ perspective, the US has a right wing party and a far-right party.
You must be new to lemmy
Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.
Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?
So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?
IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven’t bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.
You missed lead poisoning. I believe that’s epidemic in America…
Yes the lead is one of the many issues i didn’t get into, it is on the decline though. However, microplastics is the new lead. We know it affects the endocrine system, as of yet, though, we do not know how, or what the effects will be. Point being, blaming this behavior on education isn’t shooting at the right target, and there are so many targets.
Sure, but microplastics is a world wide issue. Lead, not so much. And here, we were discussing why America, in particular, is so goddam stupid.
I don’t think these factors are specifically unique to the US, some more than other. I think a lot of the environmental stuff you can see in many places, lead is not just a problem in the US, we are just more talkative about it.
https://www.cgdev.org/publication/combatting-hidden-epidemic-lead-poisoning-ideas-eu
Oh, definitively not. I’m not even 30, and I remember that NY dad’s car from when I was a kid needed a special additive to replace the lead, because that had been banned since he bought it
The rest of the world too. Americans are just louder and prouder about stupidity.
That is objectively false. Other countries are far more educated.
Don’t mistake education for intelligence.
Trump has a degree from Wharton.
Correction: Trump’s father BOUGHT a degree from Wharton.
No one who actually earned a college degree, especially from a notable college, speaks and acts and makes mistakes like Donald Trump.
I’m sure Wharton educated trump. Whether any of it mattered… Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…
I wouldn’t be sure. His professor from Wharton said he was the “dumbest fucking student he’s ever had”
Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…
Literally right there.
Sigh, Its worse than that. Most of us are lazy. Lazy with their thoughts and how they learn new information. By the time they notice how bad they have it wrong you want to slap them. Of course most of them will blame anyone but themselves for their problems.
We don’t have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.
The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you’re dumb as fuck too.
Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren’t straight up clown shows, more human rights.
You’ve successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol’ US of A. As is evident.
Yeah, he made a huge mistake.
Its merely that most Americans are dumb as fuck.
I think lead poisoning is epidemic in America. Decades of no money being spent on infrastructure will do that.
America, as a nation, is unarguably fucking stupid. The rest of the world has been overly influenced by America, due to it’s wealth and power, for a very long time. We used to say that when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. Recent events have seen a great decoupling of the world from America. We’ve seen that the American way is utterly fucked. America is the turd that is sinking whilst the rest of the world will get more buoyant as the new reality sinks in.
I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don’t think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans “electors” are dumb, but it’s kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there’s probably some that don’t like to run, but the majority does.
Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.
oh boy, you really showed them!
I think you’re misconstruing hate with stupidity. Many are more hateful than dumb.
hate and stupidity go hand in hand
If you’re gonna be dumb, then you got to be tough
Found the fucking idiots who couldn’t be bothered to vote for Kamala.
Or that voted for donvict because “R”.
Retirement vanishing, social services being cut, tariffs destroying global trust and economy… It’s ok. It’s ok. Because Donald Trump doesn’t laugh. Kamala had a weird laugh. That would’ve been the end of us.
Is this “nottheonion”? I cant believe that people are so oblivious.
“Did Biden drop out” was trending on Google on election day. We’re cooked.
This makes sense, people were trying to find out how it would impact them (we both are on the same page that we would want them to do that before the election).
It probably would have been better if people looked that up BEFORE voting.
The onion endorsed Dark Brandon after he dropped
This is an inevitable (and was preventable) result of a two party system, unless someone is “into” politics they are trained to tune out.
Every person’s media bubble is tuned to them. If they’re disinterested in politics their algorithm will steer them right away from all the troubles that were abundantly aware of.
And if they’re into politics, it will be a bubble as well. Not even left/right. It’s a bubble of your specific flavor of politics/humor. Because also political discussion and humor go hand in hand now at all times, apparently.
I wish I was in a place were I had no idea what was going on. I’m just twitching when I think about Republicans sending people to concentration camps with out charges or trial. That just means everyone is just sheep to be plucked. We are now just living on luck.
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You are very out of the loop. Let me fill you in.
deporting immigrants without ID and asking them to re-enter the country when they have the proper papers.
This is not correct. Currently the trump admin is capriciously revoking student visas and then snatching students off the streets. They are also snatching people at their immigration court hearing. They are effectively abducting and removing people from the US without due process.
sending MS13 gang members to a prison in El Salvado
This is not correct. Currently the Trump admin has declared TdA (a Venezuelan street gang) as an enemy nation of the United States, and they are using this justification to send people to a torture prison outside the US, without due process, on the basis that these people are gang member because of weak “evidence” such as an Autism Awareness tattoo, or a lack of criminal record. Last I heard, at least 75% of the people sent to the extra-national torture prison have no criminal record at all.
making immature/rash economic policies as collateral for speeding up foreign affairs.
This is partially correct. The trump admin is making rash economic policies, but it is not speeding up foreign affairs. Multiple countries have sent delegations to the US to establish new trade policies, and have reported back that the US cannot plainly state what their current trade grievances are, or what deal they want to fix resolve them. Trump has flip-flopped (sometimes in the same sentence) about whether or not the tariffs are negotiable.
the officials who are being deposed/suspended were being irresponsible, and not doing the job/role they’re paid by the public to perform.
This is mostly incorrect. While firing enough people will get rid of underperformers, the trump admin has cut people in charge of; preventing food and medicine contamination, investigsting fraudulent business practices, monitoring and disbursing federal aid, and even the people who are required to to fire/layoff the people they are firing. This list is not comprehensive.
for DOGE (probably out of context, but I’ll still say), they’re just digitizing processes of record keeping in governance. They had issues starting out because they where recklessly trying to map out the system by pulling random plugs and flicking switches to see what they were working with. I’d expect that when they finish, they’d add redundancies so whoever maintains the system after them has the divide of testing and production servers.
This is incorrect. As it operates, DOGE’s entire task is to reduce the US government’s benefits to the majority of it’s citizens, shield billionaires and trump allies from liability, and transfer wealth from regular citizens to billionaires and trump allies.
DOGE has consistently overstated it’s “savings” by factors of up to 1000%. Most of the “actual” savings come from cutting contracts and services, which just shifts the burden of those necessary services to individuals and states. They are not rewriting the software the US Govt. uses, their team doesn’t even grasp simple database concepts. DOGE workers have demanded super-admin account to government systems, and minutes after those permissions were granted, logins using valid credentials from adversarial nations were detected. Based on this info, DOGE is either woefully inept, or horribly corrupt, or (most likely) both. The primary targets of DOGE cuts are institutions that either had, or could, investigate and hold billionaire accountable for tax dodging, anti-consumer practices, environmental damage, privacy violation, ignoring workers rights and safety, and much much more. They have been working overtime to dismantle the already weak protections the common man has from American oligarchs.
TLDR: whatever news sources you are reliant on are either directly peddling disinfo to you, or they are hiding/underreporting critical details of current events, and you should look elsewhere for your news.
I appreciate your efforts to elucidate so completely on a post that’s borderline trolling!
Can’t let it stand unchallenged. Either they’re a troll, and the record needs to be corrected, or they’ve been getting disinfo from crappy Russian funded alt-right podcasters, and then they still need to be corrected.
Fuck if only you had all of the world’s information at your fingertips. Maybe through some device like a phone or computer. Possibly on something called the “ World Wide Web”.
I’m sure once something like that exist you’ll be able to search for answers yourself. Or you can just fuck off to newsmax like you have been doing.
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If you want to be informed about the world you’ll need to develop your “words” skills" Just listening to random strangers online is how we ended up with Trump.
I mean it’s not much of a skill. It’s just picking several reliable news sources that are not obviously biased like Fox/NewsMax/to some extent CNBC. Just compare the NYT, the BCC, CBC and whatever other large reliable news organizations you can find, ideally not all from the US. You’ll find countless articles detailing the lies of the current administration as well as the way they’re trampling the constitution. People online are almost always going to be pushing some kind of bias.
You make great points, especially the fact that people are often pushing some kind of bias. However, there definitely is a skill to determining the reliability of a source, it’s called Information Literacy. You’re also right that each person has to develop this skill for themselves.
For those who truly want to strengthen their Information Literacy, I’d recommend starting by learning to recognize various common cognitive biases and logical fallacies. Simply being familiar with how these things work gives you a leg up on identifying nonsense, even if you can’t recall the exact name of the bias or fallacy that may be occurring.
Skepticism will get you far in determining accurate from inaccurate, and it’s important to apply it universally - question everything - instead of simply applying skepticism toward things you don’t like. Similarly, be open to changing your mind when presented with new information, because the more you learn how to see through the misinformation, the more you may find the world around you is different from what you’d been told.
“If you want to be informed about the world you’ll need to develop your “words” skills”
Social skills in general are by far the most important in just about every aspect of life. 1 man can only do so much. 1 man that can organize a million men can take over the world.
That’s your choice, fine. But if you want to comment on current event without even very basic information gathering skills you’ll just have to trust whatever others tell you. And we’re telling you this administration is full of lies.
So you prefer to get your news from random internet strangers you’ve never met, over actual legitimate sources? Why, because your ability to sniff out the bullshit is underdeveloped?
Makes zero sense.
The way I see it, people are people. Some people say things that make sense, other times they don’t. I try to check out their sources and reason through conflicting arguments. I also give it some time rather than jumping to impulse decisions.
I try to do things on pattern recognition, but I don’t assume that my view is absolute. I do same with the thoughts and opinions of others.
It’s basically respecting a person’s individuality, and both of our abilities to grow as people.
Being good in one domain, doesn’t make you good in all domains. That takes time: sometimes I have it, other times I don’t.
Complete nonsense. I truly hope this person doesn’t actually exist (though I know there are people like this)
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sending MS13 gang members to a prison in El Salvador.
Sending people they have claimed without evidence are MS13 gang members to a “prison” (torture murder facility - you look at the Google earth images of what looks like a puddle of blood by the facility and the fact that they’ve confirmed something like 100 people died there last year, that there is no release, and that they’re cramming people into such small living spaces the EU would consider it unethical for transporting livestock and tell me what you think)
The overcrowding is excessive to international standards and the access to toilets and other hygiene clearly seem to be limited. But those conditions seem better, in the sense that in other prisons we have seen testimonies of prisoners taking turns standing and lying down due to overcrowding.
Skin disease is rampant. It’s more likely that prisoners in the other prisons have scabies on their skin or even signs of physical abuse than the tattoos that you see in the images that are often projected from CECOT.
I also read an account from a doctor that worked there that inmates with conditions like diabetes are not given their medication. That people are beaten upon arrival, to the point that some die. That people experiencing medical crises in the cells are ignored, left to die until the guards pick up the body the next day.
Even if everyone there was a gang member (there’s no due process in El Salvador, and there hasn’t been due process with the people we’ve been sending there) - that’s not how human beings should be treated.
Not to mention being in a gang is not illegal in the United States; commiting crimes is illegal.
Having gang-affiliated tattoos is not illegal either.
Also given their username, I’m guessing they’re a troll.
Even if it was, they still deserve due process. Everyone deserves and is entitled to due process.
This isn’t new, this shit goes back 800+ years to the Magna Carta.
Correct. This is Steve Bannon’s “muzzle velocity” strategy at hand where there is so much wrong about this situation that it’s hard to focus on a single point about it.
It can also be extremely difficult to tell whether it’s an actual gang tattoo/clothing/symbol. Stuff like a Chicago Bulls jersey can be read as a gang symbol, or just that you really like the Bulls.
I taught kids who were in gangs - some of my students have died in the interim. The kids who were the most “visual” were the posers.
Fwiw - subjunctive verbs are key to your intended meaning
Even if everyone there
waswere a gang memberChange to subjunctive to describe an imaginary situation
There’s a reason English is the only high school subject I’m not certified to teach… (grammar is boring)
You are right. There needs to be a public follow-up of some of these decisions to assess their multi-degree effects.
These seem to issues of subordinates blindly following orders or miscarrying out their directives.
In addition there are coordinators/facilitators who need to be kept on tighter leashes and strictly supervised.
Prison is meant to be for rehab, a place to tame “wolves” in a sandbox. Beyond issuing decrees, there needs to be civilian driven investigations into some of these places. They are funded by tax-payers and should be transparently accountable to them, similar to investors in the private sector.
It’s that or some territories voluntarily separate due to operational disagreements.
These seem to issues of subordinates blindly following orders or miscarrying out their directives.
No - this is intentional. This is what Bukele wants, because Bukele is an authoritarian dictator who does not care about human rights.
For one thing, there simply aren’t enough public defenders assigned to the thousands of people in pretrial detention, Bullock said. But the bigger problem, according to Bertha María Deleón, an attorney from El Salvador, is the justice system itself.
“Bukele also controls the Attorney General’s Office, the institution in charge of public criminal defense,” she told Vox. “What’s more, the attorney general says that there are no cases of arbitrary detentions. The human rights attorney does not do her job either.”
According to Deleón, prisoners must wait in detention, “in overcrowded and subhuman conditions” as their criminal trial plays out, for as long as three years. “Many have died,” she told Vox, “and they do not allow an autopsy.”
“Oops, we accidentally crowded more people than can safely live in this space, denied them medical care and contact with the outside world! Just a few bad apples!”
I’ll assume you’re commenting in good faith despite the absurdity.
You’re missing the point: the human rights abuses are a huge issue, but the prisoners shouldn’t be there. ~100 men were sent to a maximum security prison without getting a trial and based on unproven claims. The government literally admitted that they shouldn’t have sent Abrego Garcia there, but he’s still sitting in prison and the government claims there’s nothing they can do to get him out. Whether or not that’s true, it means that anyone (including you) could get life in prison based on a mistake, which is especially likely to happen when there’s no due process. You should genuinely be scared for your own well-being.
Thank you.
I am somewhat unsettled, but people usually don’t listen when a problem is posed without an actionable solution.
They’re working blind, and want to get over the dark age however they can. It’s why they tend to select leaders, who then create systems that work in the beginning, then can either be changed or maintained.
Once I get through the cited links, I’ll see if I can figure out something.
Here’s a shiny new Wikipedia article, with lots of links to parse through.
What the Trump administration is doing is not legal.
You are right. There needs to be a public follow-up of some of these decisions to assess their multi-degree effects.
Yeah, that’s called a fucking trial.
You can’t possibly be this naive.
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You’re not that deep into this, you just have all the MAGAt talking points memorized. You don’t even know, guys.
Don’t bother feeding the troll.
This, but to the people actually discussing with it in good faith.
I don’t see it as a bad thing as the troll isn’t the only person reading these comments.
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This is the stupidity that America represents. They’ve made most goods a lot more expensive for the entire western world, but have no fucking clue what’s happening.
Americans have a say in who their president is, and have to take responsibility of it. What about the rest of the world that now feels the impact of the stupidity that is America? A lot of smaller businesses who exported to America have to fire employees because of the baby’s tantrum of tariffs. They have no say in American politics but are victims of it.
People who are too dumb or not engaged enough to inform themselves shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They are too dense to understand the severity of their vote. “Let’s vote for orange baby rapist! He’ll cure wokeness and end this war on racism!”.
Go fuck yourself so hard you’ll never be able to vote again. You people don’t deserve a polite response anymore. Politeness is something you have to earn. You minimizing the blatant disregard of human rights that the American government is doing is despicable and psychotic.
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Do you use arch?
Your username. I think arch is a cool distro the rices are pretty.
Never got to making my own though.
idk the og russian government likes bears?
Some of the locals are cool like you, but their current government… cold like the snow.
Also why do you think I’m a bot? Are you a bot?
Fun break, I’m going back to reading the links.
You’re mellow though. gg
Deporting legal immigrants with proper documentation has happened already.
Deporting valid visa holders after cancelling a visa for no clear reason has happened.
Tarrifs have been instated, removed, reinstated, and modified based on whims of the president.
Judges made legal decisions, which is their job, and we’re subsequently harassed by ICE.
DOGE has done irreparable harm to the well established, decades old infrastructure that the country runs on. Because of their decisions, top-level scientists are fleeing the country, programs to help people around the world and project US power have been dissolved with no warning, and institutions across the country have been thrown into disarray. There is no indication that the individuals involved know what they are breaking or have any plan to repair it.
If you are, in fact, living under a rock, then looking into all of these things might be a good start. You might then want to look into the history of Nazi Germany in the mid 1930’s to see how they destroyed democracy back then, and see how things happening now mirror what was happening then.
Judges made legal decisions, which is their job, and we’re subsequently harassed by ICE.
And the judge who’s facing federal charges for obstruction of a federal officer.
2 hour old account
C’mon at least try
I am trying. I’m asking questions I’d usually keep to myself.
Then why are you not replying to everyone who is providing real information to answer your questions? I’ve seen several, older than this comment, completely unanswered. People who clearly put a lot of thought into their replies.
You nailed it lol literally every reply with facts countering OP is left unanswered. He’s only targeting the low hanging fruit.
Can I just say I’m an so fucking sick of people like this. I can’t even fathom how someone gets to be this out of touch with reality.
I would love to be delusional enough to believe I lived in a world where shit like an ICE raid with 20 armed men traumatizing American citizens couldn’t happen.
Notice how he didn’t respond to this either lol
You’re not asking questions. You are pushing a conclusion with a question mark without information, and it makes you look like a clueless person because your information is easily identifiable as wrong, lmao.
Theyre deporting anyone they thing is an illegal without due process.
Their means to identify ms13 don’t seem robust, and it seems like they conclude tattoos=ms13
Making rash economic policies, at your expense, while being dishonest about the origin of increased prices or who picks up the tab for it (us)
Doge is doing way more than you’re thinking, in a much worse way. The idea of “go fast and break things” isn’t good to do on no-fail government systems. Doge also appears to be targeting musks adversaries in the government that he thinks are holding back his goals. Or which he’s been investigated or regulated by
This article may be useful to read, and explains how a whistleblower at the NLRB describes how Doge operates and how data integrity and security are compromised.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/doge-workers-code-supports-nlrb-whistleblower/
You’ll just eat up anything they tell you won’t you?
How does it make you feel that you’ve bought the propaganda? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve been duped, and not that you know the truth but are still spreading lies.
I also know you aren’t going to believe that you’ve been fooled. It’s a sad sad reality. You’ll believe anything that confirms you are smart, and deny anything that confirms you are wrong.
This is a very brief, very incomplete list but from what has been reported so far they are
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Deporting people with legal visas because they express opinions that the presidential administration disapproves of
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Sending people who were in the US legally to a foreign prison without due process. That last part is especially important, without due process anyone can get punished without having any recourse for proving their innocence.
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Severely damaging international relations and damaging the world’s economies without any reasonable process or determination, especially with long-standing allies and trade partners.
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Dismantling large portions of the government, a lot of it created for enabling life-saving research, providing assistance to those who are most in need, and protecting citizens from toxic, dangerous, and otherwise harmful products, including in food and medicine. A lot of it through sudden, unannounced, unjustified, and illegal firings.
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Aggressively attacking anyone who disagrees with the administration, even if their disagreement stems from the law or even the constitution itself, including attacking legal firms that represent those parties.
This is without mentioning what they are doing to infringe on voting rights, redistribute more wealth to the very richest, reduce protections for minorities and strengthen systematic discrimination, and otherwise dismantling democracy at large.
Damn. That’s bad. I think it’d make more sense to single out the people causing problems and making the dumb decisions.
Lumping people into groups based on their political party feels rash, since on both sides there are good people who you could reasonably trust to do their jobs and make the country better.
The shotgun approach makes a bunch of noise and confuses anyone trying to figure out what’s going on.
since on both sides there are good people
No, there aren’t. If you are anything other than maximally opposed to the side sending people to concentration camps, then you are a loathesome piece of shit who the world would be better off without.
Dude/Ma’am/Ambiguous
Let me correct myself: “good enough”
I’m not expecting saints, but I’m also not expecting self-destructive degenerates.
You don’t need to allocate all your trust to someone. Just assign the minimal amount of trust that makes sense to get the job done to the proper standard, and no lower. (subjective)
Lumping people into groups based on their political party feels rash, since on both sides there are good people who you could reasonably trust to do their jobs and make the country better.
Lol you’re so bad at this. Go somewhere else.
That’s bad. I think it’d make more sense to single out the people causing problems and making the dumb decisions.
For fuck’s sake. Are you trying to say it’s just a couple low level staffers responsible for all that? The entire Trump administration from the top down is all in on everything on that list.
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You might want to skip the personal attacks given the level of basic reasoning you’ve exhibited thus far in the comments.
They’ve wronged be personally by doing all that shit in my name as leaders of the country and government that I am a citizen of. Just because I haven’t been put in handcuffs doesn’t mean I’m ok with it happening to other people who have done nothing wrong.
If you have beef, accuracy & precision removes the cancer.
Tell that to the assholes deporting US citizen children with cancer or the doge idiots who cut whole departments only to go back and beg people to come back.
I not ok with all the messed up stuff they’re doing either. I think it’s grim, but I think a lot of people go mentally ill because they believe they’re completely helpless. I’ve been in that mindspace before, things stabilize once I told myself that I care, but not enough to go insane for it.
I have multiple other things I also find interesting, I don’t want to needlessly crucify myself for a cause. It feels like stranding the people and the things I love.
You’d struggle to straighten things out when your brain is making dark scribbles.
Not sure if you get where I’m coming from.
I wasn’t attacking you, it was rhetorical sarcasm. I was thinking like a joke.
Sorry if that offended. I wasn’t sure if we were even on the same conversation thread.
I wonder if there was a way to make forum threads like this easier to read. People joining older conversations tend to be off pace.
At any point, Republicans could step up and stop any or all of this. It would take very few of them, and if there are good Republicans, as you say, then how many of them are there?
At any point, Republicans could step up and stop any or all of this.
They could, but that requires coordination and greater operational awareness / intelligence.
You could tip them or give them something actionable/understandable. I’m going to make an assumption that you’ve worked or met someone irl, whose worked in a corp/company before. The government is similar but bigger and more rigid.
It would take very few of them, and if there are good Republicans, as you say, then how many of them are there?
I haven’t bothered counting. You could do that if you wanted to, for whatever side you prefer to observe/analyze.
Most of the good/relatable are lower-ranking, which is a pro/con depending on your perspective.
Wild shit… Just wow.
… Are you suggesting Republicans can’t coordinate or that they’re too stupid or unaware to fix any problems?
You are moving away from the main point, though, which is that all of this is the Republicans’ fault. They can stop this at any point, and if they don’t, then how are there any good ones?
“both sides” you are assuming there are only two sides.
People will have their personal stances. The data scientists are just trying to classify them so they can figure out a solution.
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You’re account was registered when? Today?
Yeah. I heard about the fediverse and thought I’d try it out.
The person who designed the photon theme did good.
Most other platforms are dunking on the fediverse like it a reserve for endangered animals.
I don’t think you’re that bad. We disagree, but I can vibe every now and then.
Have you ever gone camping? Wild stuff in the wild. Cities are nice and all, but the outdoors sound better. To me at least.
I wonder what the Internet would look like without slop. Sounds like a “Heavenly Delusion”.
But dreamers will dream I guess. Or create.
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That’s a lot of apologetics for Trump for someone who claims to be lost. Your framing is also full of misinfo. So I am guessing you are trolling.
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I’m using what you’d call “deductive reasoning”.
Don’t quit your day job
For DOGE, it’s much, much worse than that. In many government agencies, they seem to have installed Starlink-based back doors directly into critical systems. I would not be surprised at all to find out in a few years that foreign agents have thoroughly infiltrated Starlink (perhaps even on invitation from Elon), and every piece of classified and confidential information that DOGE siphoned away is in foreign hands.
The biggest intel breach in history, perpetrated by the President’s main advisor.
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You seem to be willfully ignorant, I assume you are talking out of your ass in bad faith.
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federal despotism
Ignorance knows no bounds 🙄
Did I miss something?
Jesus fucking Christ yes
Nooo, not the fascist i’m voting for… There must be something else i’m missing