• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    11 days ago

    The way you’re describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.

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      11 days ago

      “Live and let live” obviously doesn’t work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn’t mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.

    • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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      11 days ago

      You mean, people who operate a platform where people’s privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?

      I dunno. I understand your point, but @Telorand@reddthat.com is also kind of right.

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          9 days ago

          Rights are unchangeable based on circumstances.

          Absolutely false.

          They can never be revoked.

          They’re regularly revoked in all developed countries, mainly as the result of criminal proceedings. Unless you think that prisoners are afforded the same rights as the rest of us?

          And the Enlightenment notion that there are inalienable rights endowed by the Creator is about as quaint as the idea that there’s a Creator. Rights are ideals that must be continually fought for and expanded, not the gift of a beneficent Alpha Male in the Sky

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
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      11 days ago

      All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.

      I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.

    • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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      11 days ago

      lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.

      (or positions of power, etc…)