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My Linux doesn’t expire for now over 10 years. What’s your sales pitch exactly?
Ahem
LIIIIIIIIIIINUX!
Just install OpenBSD and be done with it.
Yeah. It will get security updates for more time, but support for new hardware and potentially software will start to fall away from this year
Too late (for me), but seeing how things are going, Windows 11 will probably be my last Windows that ever deal with. Will be moving to Linux.
I used Linux for many years from 2005 to probably 2013 or so, and I liked it. I decided to go back a couple of years ago, and now I love it.
Honestly I’m getting a bit tired of discussions about Windows getting hijacked by people almost aggressively pushing Linux as the go-to alternative. I’m sure Linux is good, but it often feels less like helpful advice and more like proselytizing. I think most users aren’t looking for a whole paradigm shift, they want improvements within the environment they already know, not a completely different system with its own learning curve and compromises.
Honestly, I am getting a bit tired of Windows (which is pretty much adware garbage at this point) being the only mainstream OS for laptops and desktops.
I am also extremely tired of half-assed status quo defenders like you that always say, “people just aren’t ready”. This is clearly a disingenuous argument born out of ignorance and apathy.
Lemmy clearly has a Linux slant just as Reddit did before all the Winblows people did exactly what you are doing now. So respectfully get bent.
I find your comments particularly hollow on regards to UI changes as Microsoft is the most guilty party ever for changing the interface and forcing people to relearn everything (hello ribbon bar, Windows 8, Windows 11 lack of start bar configurations, and of course constantly changing where settings are located).
The only cult that is proselytizing is Windows bootlicking losers. The fact that Linux users are passionate about the superiority of owning your software and not giving your money and personal information to a corporation that will sell you out in a second is just common sense.
Unfortunately if you take alternatives out of the running you’re kind of just left with impotent rage against one of the biggest companies in the world and their shareholders.
Why would Microsoft ever care about some mildly upset users on Lemmy when they know said users are locked into their product for life?
I just want my games to work man. I have a huge library of weird and old games that I have spent years tinkering with to get them to run reliably on modern windows, I honestly cannot be arsed having to re-fix everything on Linux. WINE is not perfect and Proton doesn’t support everything.
Which games are concerns for you? Genuinely asking.
I don’t know what games other commenter has, but my understanding is that there are a lot of issues with anti-cheat software not working properly with Linux.
Although I don’t really have a direct interest in buying a Steam deck, I’m hoping that its popularity helps push for games to be more Linux-friendly.
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My advice is to move your computing to an environment that opens options for you and responds to your wants and needs rather than an environment that treats you like a guinea pig to experiment on, or an actual pig to force-fed slop to.
You will never convince Microsoft that you’re tired of their slop if you keep eating it.
Not saying changing OSes is easy, but it is easier than it’s ever been, and the dividends have been worth it for me.
It’s been this way for decades. They don’t realise that by constantly bashing windows, they’re not making Linux better, theyre just demonstrating what sort of bitter snobbery you’ll be dealing with if you switch.
I use Arch btw.
Stick with Windows. Microft will deliver paradigm shifts and you will have no say in the matter. They are already removing options for disabling Copilot, and for all the promised backward compatibility they are letting go of features that lots of old Windows software depended on, as they introduce features similar to ones in Linux. I cannot really fault them for all of these changes, but the difference is actually one of choice and privacy, and not really the one you seem to think it is.
I’m been using Linux full time since 2004, and while I think it is good to let people know it is there, I don’t recommend it to people I’m not willing to personally support. But, I also let them know I just can’t help with Windows problems either, and they should address their complaints to their OS vendor.
I file Debian bugs if I have a problem with my OS, and have received fixes that way. This is better support that I ever received from MS during my first 2 decades of using MS OSes.
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Yes I am dumb normie. Who has set up for doing things a certain way. I have my cnc plasma tables, my 3d printers and cnc mills. They are essential to my business. I need to be able to run the cad programs, communications and links. I have spent alot of hours already establishing this, learning how to do this. I don’t have time to re learn all this because I “should switch to linux” I don’t have time to learn new cad programs because the ones i use aren’t Linux friendly. Many of us normies just don’t have that spare time to go through the process. I just need something that I know will work.
if it’s controlling something like a CNC machine I can see why you wouldn’t wanna fuck with it, but there’s probably computers in other roles that could go linux. start with a raspi and get familiar with things. you can get one for $15
I really feel like the linux thing is far more cultural than practical, and if you don’t actually enjoy fiddling around with settings and software, you’re probably not going to enjoy the community either.
I have no idea what I’m going to do, I can’t afford a new PC nor do I have the desire to buy a new PC just because Microsoft says jump through this new hoop. I’ll probably just do a bypass and ask around the docks for a security key “workaround” from the friendly, local, sailors with eyepatches and peg legs.
If your machine has a TPM chip, you can bypass the other requirements to upgrade to 11 with a simple registry edit. Not sure if that’s an option for you, but it saved parents’ older Surface device from the landfill.
TPM cup
I googled this and now I’m enrolled in a yacht race… thanks.
good luck ⛵
Yeah yeah, I blame autocorrect.
“I see you’re worried about abuse by priests in the Catholic Church. Can I interest you in Buddhism?”
I’m not sure I get the analogy here… Do you think there will be less abuse by priests if there are more Catholics?
I’m not sure I get the analogy here… Do you think there will be less abuse by priests if there are more Catholics?
🤦♂️
First, do you think Microsoft would do less shady shit if there were more Windows users? I’m sort of confused about where you’re finding that interpretation of the metaphor.
But more importantly, as I explained in my other reply I was just riffing on the proselytizing comment. It made me chuckle to think about someone being advised to change religions after voicing a (legitimate) frustration with their religious leadership.
There is a philosophical difference using Open Source software. To compare it to religion is pretty shitty honestly, even if you find it amusing. Linux is not faith it is logic.
There is a philosophical difference using Open Source software. To compare it to religion is pretty shitty honestly, even if you find it amusing. Linux is not faith it is logic.
Hoooooly fuck. I was just riffing off the other guy using the word proselytizing. I wasn’t trying to make any sort of point.
Go outside and leave me alone. Fuck. I’ve already explained this multiple times.
Linux is fucking awesome. But you all take yourselves way too seriously. You’re making the community look like complete tools.
Taking this a tad bit personally I see. I was just commenting on the conversation. I don’t speak for any community.
Your definitely a bit of wanker to be honest.
No, I think more MS users = MS shady shit. So, to discourage MS shady shit, I encourage people to not use MS software. I also think that people who are worried about abuse by priests should not tithe or otherwise donate to Catholic churches (belief matters less than action here; and it’s less reasonable to swap out belief system, I guess.)
That’s why your analogy seems backwards to me.
Doesn’t matter anyway. I guess I just don’t get it. Have a nice day.
I promise I wasn’t trying to make any value statements at all. I wasn’t speaking in favor of Windows or of the Catholic Church. Just something that made me chuckle. 🙄
It may be my perspective comes from western civilization, but do Buddhists have similar child abuse scandals?
It may be my perspective comes from western civilization, but do Buddhists have similar child abuse scandals?
I have no idea, that wasn’t my point with the metaphor.
I was riffing off the “proselytizing” comment and comparing someone complaining about some shady shit Microsoft does and then being advised to change to Linux, with someone complaining about some shady shit the Catholic Church does and then being advised to change to Buddhism.
It’s not a perfect metaphor, but it gave me a chuckle when I thought of it.
I picked those religions because Catholicism in its singular “what the Vatican says goes for everyone” approach mapped well onto Microsoft and Windows, and I thought Buddhism, a religion with many flavors, some of which are more structured than others, mapped well onto Linux and its various distros.
“Linux is great ha ha you just have to know which one you want and they are all vague and technical ha ha if there’s a problem just program a solution yourself you know programming ha ha we’re not a cult I swear anyway I told my grandma she’s a piece of shit because she didn’t want to switch to Linux even though she doesn’t own a computer I only yelled at her for five hours straight about it”
Though for real I might actually try it out, I like open source stuff and my friend said it’s not hard.
It’s not that bad. My programming experience is Matlab and a bit of python, so not much. My command line experience was almost non-existent before switching, and tbh still isn’t that good.
I haven’t fully switched yet, I’ve dabbled in Linux a few times over the last ten years, starting to fully switch now. Have one old PC running a Debian based server OS and a bunch of free self hosted services. Personal laptop is now Debian. Work laptop stuck on windows. Desktop is still windows for gaming, but I’ll probably even change that soon. I’m still in a bit of a distro hopping phase to figure out what I like before switching the desktop.
My programming experience is Matlab
Wow that takes me back
Yeah, if you’re interested, you should give it a shot.
Have you asked the question “why do so many discussions get hijacked by people saying to switch to Linux”? It’s not because there are a bunch of Linux nut jobs that need to validate their questionable choice by getting other people to make the same choice. It’s because Linux works and it works well. Out of the box, with no command line configuration, Linux will serve most end users computer needs. For those of us that use Linux, this Windows 10 thing is a joke, because its a problem that has a simple solution. There is no need to go through installing a whole different Windows 10 OS when you can switch to Linux and be done.
I’ve been into linux since I was 13 and things are way easier now
Then you should have no issue naming a distro that is a 1:1 equal of Windows 10 or maybe even 7, but with none of the enshittification and only upsides.
Lay down your selection critia. What features does Windows 10 have that you want a Linux equivalent for, and what does the Linux equivalent need to have for you to consider it 1:1.
That’s an impossible metric. No OS will be 1:1 equal to another, that’s just ridiculous. But plenty of distros are ready today to replace common use cases. Maybe it won’t replacy yours, but it can replace a lot of people’s.
Not to beat a dead horse since I’m sure it always comes up, but Linux Mint does literally everything I want to do on my computer, and maybe a little bit more than my work computer that runs Windows.
Distro isn’t important, for a novice user the defference, basically, is what software is in the official repository, and how easy it is to google shit. Unless you chose something very obscure somehow, you’ll be fine.
People always talk about the learning curve and compromises, but Linux is finally in the “shit just works” stage, so it’s not much different than the Mac/PC decision people make every day.
Heck, in a lot of ways it is more similar to Windows than Mac is, so it should be an easier decision. For some reason though, everyone still treats it like… Well… It would be like treating Windows like you still have to know DOS.
That’s just not true anymore.
Linux isn’t good. Not for home users that want it to just work, imo. Linux will fight you at every step of the way, over every little thing. I’ve tried various versions over the years and I’ve always been put off by how anti-user it is. Want to set a custom dpi? Fuck you. Want to set a custom cursor size or colour? Fine, but fuck you it won’t work in a browser window. Want an on screen keyboard? Fuck you. Want to update or install anything that isn’t in a package store? Fuck you, terminal.
You’re not going to get “improvements” in Windows, that should be clear by now. Crystal clear, I would think.
Linux IS good, and today, the “paradigm shift” is more like a gentle learning curve with people holding your hand every step.
I’m an old geezer who made the jump a year ago, it really isn’t hard. Literally, the only thing I miss is the big preview window in the file manager. Big previews for all of the major formats is a big plus for Windows, but not one that kept me on their side.
I strongly recommend to people to try linux on an old laptop because that’s something most people can do even if they still need windows for something
You’re not going to get “improvements” in Windows, that should be clear by now.
This is the crux of the issue. Holding out for improvements … that aren’t coming.
I have Windows 11 and am unlikely to change this computer (though who knows), however I absolutely plan on my next build being Linux. I might start tinkering around in a VM.
the only thing I miss is the big preview window in the file manager
I may be misinterpreting you, but I think this is a thing with Dolphin. It has a preview pane, which supports all the file types I commonly interact with (F11), which can be dragged to resize bigger or smaller.
I haven’t used any preview thing on Windows, which is why I think I may be misunderstanding.
Anyways if you haven’t tried Dolphin, maybe it has a solution for you (made by kde project, but I believe it should be installable for any desktop environment).
I switched to Mint last year. Had a few hiccups, but I have everything working just how I want it now.
Windows problem solved.
I see that we’ve entered the bargaining period.
Jokes on them! I got rid of windows last week and now have Linux Mint on my PC! It’s great! All my games run and I’ve set up my own screenshot shortcut in a way that I want. Installing software through terminal commands is also a lot of fun.
Haha. I too switched to Linux Mint last week. So far no regrets. I’ve actually enjoyed making everything I need to work. Especially because it seems to work better that on the operating system it was designed for. Strange.
How does Mint work with (old) NVIDIA drivers? I’m going to have to do the switch sometime this year and I am still debating which distro would give me the least troubles running games and applications via Proton / Wine.
My guess is that they will work just fine! Most distros will work equally well once set up, but some may require an extra step or two for driver installation. From what I’ve seen, Mint is a good starting point overall and is what I’m recommending to friends right now who are using Linux for the first time :)
It’s been working fine with my GTX 1060. I’ll probably get around to trying different distros at some point, but I’m pretty happy with mint. Most of the issues I’ve had with it have been due to its emphasis on stability; that is, it’s slower to incorporate changes than more cutting-edge distros. At least, that’s been my impression—I’m no Linuxologist.
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i hate you guys so much. once in their lifetime, theregister writers actually manage to recommend something useful, and you guys start to shit all over the comment section.
for the microsoft forum admins: no, ltsc is fine. you can install a store, but since its running on an early feature version with fresh security updates, xbox gamepass wont like it much. same goes with the cod launcher.
for the neckbeard freedomfighters: linux cannot solve every problem.
ive been using 10 ltsc for 5 year now. still not as great as win7, but nothing ever gonna beat that os. less telemetry, less services, no ms store (but can be installed with 3rd party softwares). runs a ton more smoother on laptops as well. main problem will be getting updates from certain softwares: programs only check for the main build version, and ltsc is going to look like its outdated, your programs might deny your updates (i would say 3 years from now). keep in mind, 11 also has an ltsc version: no bloat in the start menu, no store, less telemetry…but still looks like arse. i would recommend getting an oem key for cheap, or yohoho on the massgrave site, dont support ms with a full price.
neckbeard freedomfighters
LOL, that is delicious.
Been downvoted plenty of times for saying I don’t get 1/10th of the Windows hassle lemmy talks about, probably less. Don’t have the LTSC version of 11, but it’s from a plain Jane ISO, not a factory install, which I would bet is the cause of many people’s pain.
A sensible response. Windows has its pros, and Linux has its cons. I personally don’t care for Windows anymore, but that’s because I grew up with Linux in the home alongside Windows, ultimately chose Linux despite the cons.
Exactly. Use what you want. For me, that’s Linux, and for my SO, that’s Windows. It really doesn’t need to be a religious thing.
My wife prefers her Macs. She’s got the infamous A1706 MacBook Pro (I’ve already had to fix a few things on it), and a 27" iMac from the last run of Intel based machines.
But she does recognize the walled garden for what it is, and her seeing me effectively make my machines do what I want is making her want an Android phone 😅
it’s just horse armor what’s the big deal?
Install Linux and be done with the Microsoft bullshit. No windows, no copilot, no shit teams, no outlook, nothing of the nonsense, just software that actually works
Tell that to my employer
Send me their mail
My eternal quest to get a working desktop environment running in WSL 😭
Yeah hook me up with their number I’ll do it
I’m a developer, and I can’t just skip Windows support, also the “GUI” for debuggers on Linux aee pretty much just separate terminals for gdb, and often I can’t just jank my way out with
printf()from various issues.Valid reason.
However,…Virtual Machine?
Is the second point supposed to be a negative rather than an implementation detail?
Anyway, vscode would probably work for you. Or try clion. Like VS, but with decent cmake support, clang integration, better auto complete, simpler tool chain management, faster index, no daily crash/hanging, better git/lab integration, cross platform support… Actually never mind, there is indeed nothing like VS IDE wise. Whatever that means
I personally use RemedyBG + Kate + langservers (I might even make my own), which is actually better than VS.
also the “GUI” for debuggers on Linux aee pretty much just separate terminals for gdb, and often I can’t just jank my way out with printf() from various issues
And that is an issue because…?
I recently switched to PopOS! And it’s been great. Not being pressured into Microsoft applications and using your Microsoft account is great
Just the name itself sounds like an an angsty teenage dream. Not really selling it there.
I didn’t like the name, but it was a nice option for Nvidia laptops esp. from System76.
I ended up replacing it with Ubuntu; but I can’t remember exactly why. I normally use Debian.
That’s about as ‘judging a book by it’s cover’ as it gets.
Ultimately OP isn’t trying to sell it to you, they’re just saying that for them, they’ve been happy with it.
And hey, if you choose your distros based on their name, I’d like to see you sell that idea.
I don’t know how you got “angsty teen” from a cute name like Pop.
It just makes me laugh because they have a “!” At the end of their name. It just looks kinda goofy, kinda like when influencers have sponsored posts and they include the “™” in their copy haha
That being said, PopOS! is actually a great os.
Linux mint is another really good windows refugee friendly distro. And if you want a gaming COVID one then bazzite is the one to go for (it’s basically steam OS, but there’s a full fledged desktop version too)
Switch to Linux
I would but my DJ gear is over a decade old and none of it is compatible with Linux. It won’t even run on a modern CPU without crashing Serato, so I use an old laptop with a 4th gen i5 running LTSC to power my turntables and mixer; it all runs smooth as butter on period-correct hardware.
Eventually I will get new gear and try to get it working in Linux, but I don’t have thousands to drop right now on updated hardware, so I make do with what I have.
what’s being a DJ like?
Have you tried something like Mixx and a MIDI controller of some sort? I really don’t know all that much about the minutiae of DJing, but a friend used to DJ parties a lot with just his laptop and Mixx and that was like 20 years ago or somesuch.
Mixxx is alright but I prefer the robustness and simplicity of Serato. And my turntables technically are MIDI controllers. Fully digital and no needle or DVS interface needed. But spins and behaves just like real vinyl. I don’t like controllers with static jogwheels, which limits my selection when it comes to MIDI hardware. I’ve considered real turntables but they are out of my budget. And they can be finicky when using them with DJ software.
specialized hardware situations are the one where I don’t tell people to try linux. it’s the people who only do web browsing or very light office work that should switch ASAP
Ah, I can understand that. Interface can make or break it for sure. I just play my guitars straight into a tube amp 99% though I use a piece of software to convert the guitar signal into MIDI for playing synths the other 1% of the time, so DJ equipment and workflow are outside my area of expertise. Just recall my friend doing DJ stuff and no one ever questioned the setup and everyone seemed to have a good time :)
Why not encapsulate Windows 10 in a VM? You can run it indefinitely as long as you don’t give it Internet.
Because I don’t want to run hardware that needs to operate in realtime over a USB 2.0 connection through a VM. I have digital turntables with high-resolution platters. These are precision instruments that require the absolute lowest DPC latency obtainable; I need to eliminate as much overhead as I can, and have my equipment running as close to the bare metal as I can get from a modern OS.
What kind of music do ya play?
Open format, so literally anything and everything. I go entirely by audience reaction when deciding what to play. But mostly I like happy songs with a party vibe.
You sound like someone I would love to see play!
If you’re interested, you can listen to some of my old shows from when I was a radio DJ. Haven’t uploaded in awhile, though (fucking copyright).
Not sure if you’re using a desktop or laptop (unclear if you’re doing DJ stuff for mixing privately or gigging on the road), but hardware passthrough through something like SR-IOV would make latency a non-issue.
However, I get what you’re saying. I was more thinking of the “I want to run this on a legacy operating system for as long as I can” aspect of things. Eliminating the concern of the hardware no longer supporting a more modern operating system was what I was trying to get at. Sorry if that didn’t come through.
What would be the point? That’s just staying on Windows, with extra steps and lower performance.
The VM protects somewhat from network attacks and spread. But, I do imagine most vulnerabilities of Win10 would still be exploitable, and you would be sacrificing some performance, yes.
They mention their equipment is legacy and only supports Windows 10. An Airgapped VM of Windows 10 is a good option to continue supporting legacy hardware.
My company has decided to dedicate me and another coworker to go computer-2-computer and check if they have TPM 2.0 support.
I’m doing my best to push a Linux switch in our workplace!
It’s not just tpm 2.0 support, but simply Intel 8th gen or higher or Ryzen
Intel 6th gen CPUs could totally support tpm 2.0 but they decided to cut them off because $$$
There is no real technical reason, management wanted the line to go up so they had meetings and meetings with the engineering teams in order to find a somewhat reasonable excuse to send to the landfill millions and millions of perfectly usable computers
we gotta go dumpster diving and then have a linux instillation party
ltsc iot is on my gaming pc that I spin up once biweekly. Got the os from massgrave and most of the games from fitgirl.
If it’s a competition of getting work done, Linux is clearly superior. Windows has always just gotten in my way when I’m trying to do something with the OS.
There’s no denying though that you gotta use the right tool for the job. I ain’t forkin my time over to get Linux to work with triple-A pirated games and all that VM and wine shit. I’m just going to install ltsc and forget about it. Just as how I’m not wasting my time on Windows to install software packages, libraries, or whatever the fuck Subsystem is.
LTSC is supported, yes, but it’s an edge case not intended for desktop (or most server) applications.
If you don’t want to move to 11, install a flavour of Linux. Don’t run LTSC.
I’ve installed Linux mint about a month ago and it’s been great. The only real problem that stops me from moving everything over is:
I can’t properly play small untranslated Japanese games that aren’t on steam
To be clear, I can run them just fine, it’s just that the translator I used (VN Translator Neo) can’t be run on Linux. When I run it using wine, the window just goes black
I’ve tried a few other image-based translators, but they all either don’t run or don’t detect the game in wine
If anybody has a workaround (besides dual booting windows) I’d be very grateful
There it is. Top post is always someone casually telling you to “Just install Linux.”
I see your point but the correct answer is to install current branch. If you want pain and suffering, skip the appetizer and go straight to Linux.
I’ve been using 10 LTSC for a few months now, it works great with the few Windows-only apps I still use. I mainly use it to organize my media library, but it’s not had any problems with the few games I’ve installed with Kernel-level anti-cheat (Destiny 2, Delta Force)
I had to download the Xbox Accessories app to control my Elite controller, but that’s really it.
You might likely run into issues with GPU (and other) windows drivers, which might stop supporting old windows 10 versions. At least that happened already with LTSC/LTSB. I expect this to happen especially when ordinary windows 10 EOL is reached.
Is that much of a big deal though? Running old GPU drivers is fine, other than maybe if you like playing the latest AAA games down the road.
I mean eventually it will be an issue, but for a long time I imagine they will work just fine.
Well, it just depends on your use-case. Sometimes new games or applications require newer drivers or directly a newer Windows version. This is something you just have to be aware of.
At least that was a reason I switched LTSC Windows over to Enterprise for some people.
I’ve certainly had games stop working with older drivers. Older games, even.
But maybe.
Personally I just moved to Linux with Proton, but is not for everyone.
Only shit thing is a couple online games I like playing are dicks about their anti cheat and not wanting to be Linux compatible.
Small price to pay
Not really. I pretty much exclusively use my desktop pc for gaming. I have a laptop for doing work on.
Even smaller then
What is this disclaimer warning about? I have used LTSC exclusively as a desktop OS since 2019 and everything works. I have not had an instance of something not working that would have otherwise worked on Enterprise or Home, etc. I game in 4k, edit videos, run a jellyfin server, mine monero. I’m confused about what you mean
I even upgraded the system without a clean installation and everything worked perfectly and I have huge customization in my pc.
I am curious as to why you think so that it’s not intended for desktop applications. I don’t really have a say in server applications as I don’t use any such software. What I use W10 LTSC is mainly for my engineering softwares which won’t work properly with WINE. All normal software that you expect to work in home version also seems to be working minus all the bloat and more control over configuration. I feel like it’s the most clean version of windows that one can use now.
Simply, because Microsoft says so. The amount of “omg micro$oft is such garbage” more professional versions of that that can be attributed to not RTFM is fairly significant. It’s interesting how much effort people will put in to making a OSS project work, and give up fairly quickly in Windows land. Merely an observation; all respect to those who daily drive on Linux (and to be fair it’s been quite a few years since I tried).
More specifically, you can run into driver and software issues both inside and outside of the Microsoft space. The “Feature Updates” that are put out do include a fair bit under the hood sometimes and you miss that. Less likely in the personal use space, but quite significant in the business space. When the IT curmudgeon deploys LTSC across 1500 devices and 2 years later needs to implement a newer capability, it’s a hell of a lot of work.
Your use case is realistically the intended use case, outside of industrial equipment/embedded systems. You’re using WINE for most stuff and poke your head into Windows occasionally.
Specifically on what they say:
They intend it for stuff that really is specialty systems or single apps, like ATMs or stuff that drive CAT scans. Not geberal-purpose systems.
Doesn’t mean it won’t work for a whole lot of other people, though.
My employer has been using it for desktop AutoCAD installs for year now.
I don’t know how to install Linux in my MacBook Pro 2014 without fucking up macOS, I do have Win10 installed already with Bootcamp, so this LTSC version already looks more interesting to me than any of the Linux flavors.
Did you attempt to look it up?
Yeah I did install Linux (Mint) on my MacBook Pro 2014. Maybe three months ago. Do. Not. Recommend.
It installed fine. I had to search and install three or four drivers. Fine. But getting the webcam to work was a jumble of mismatched, often contradictory tools and instructions. After lots of hacky attempts, I finally got off-color, blocky, low frame rate video out of it. And there was one other aspect—maybe sleeping—where I tried a bunch of shit and never got it to work. Not to mention it was slower doing comparable tasks vs. MacOS
I have two other Linux machines in the house. They work great for what they need to do. But it’s not the right tool for every application, and anyone who says it is is just being silly.
Comparing your experience with macOS would be a bit unfair, how about with Windows?
For example I can tell the sleep feature works better in macOS than Win10… Battery backup as well…
I wouldn’t know, I haven’t tried it with windows. Only Mac and Linux
Once several years ago, I needed to use 3rd party tools and I wasn’t too confident to mess up with the MacBook, which is considerably more locked than previous laptops I have ever used, that is why I wanted to stay in the Boot Camp field.
